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@Excelsior @pinnsvin - Great analogy! Made me chuckle.
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@pinnsvin @Teevee It does bring up the question as to when the company will need to raise money again and what the best timing will be. Management has been very deliberate about maximizing shareholder value. Just my two bits, but H1 (or shortly after) is too soon for a financing. The coffers are loaded and the stock price has room to run. So why unnecessarily dilute shareholder value? There's still more than enough time without waiting until the last minute (@speculator). Why not, for example, wait until after the PFS when the RE is updated again? Arrow will be considerably de-risked by then and I doubt there will be any shortage of financing options for an asset as strategic as this. Again, I could be wrong but I don't see the strategic benefit of keeping the share price artificially low by holding off on RE2 if it could be released now. Arrow is being de-risked daily with every drill hole. Deep-pocketed buyers would have more opportunity to get a larger interest in the company especially if uranium prices continue to stay depressed.
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@speculator All valid points @pinnsvin
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@pinnsvin I'm not pretending to have an answer or take a position, but I think it's worth thinking about and discussing.
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@teevee @pinnsvin, it is never too soon for financing, and if you wait for the treasury to be depleted, the banksters will crush you when your back is against the wall. If institution demand is high after NYSE listing, NXE should take advantage of it and raise funds to carry them through bankable feasibility.
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@pinnsvin @Teevee. It's an interesting thought especially as it relates to the continued depressed commodity price. Were it to stay lower for longer or general market sentiment turned negative, one would want to be well positioned. It's the prudent thing to do, so I see your point. And if NexGen were to get an offer after the PFS, having cash in the bank gives it a better negotiating position.
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@pinnsvin Just a reminder... From the February 23, 2017 new release: Leigh Curyer, "The updated resource estimate incorporating 2016 drilling at Arrow is on schedule for release in the coming months."
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@pinnsvin I wish @BDMinefinder was posting regularly. I really appreciated his input (and that of the many other excellent contributors here). I was just going back through the archives and re-reading some old posts. Here are a couple of good posts from him back in September 2016 regarding the resource estimate: https://ceo.ca/@bdminefinder?65f60e5cf669 https://ceo.ca/@bdminefinder?a41512631d99
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@pinnsvin Spot at $25.50 USD. Using a 10% spot value I get a $3.36 per share valuation.
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@pinnsvin $25.50/10 * (179.5 MM LBS + 122.1 MM LBS) * $1.33923 CAD/USD / 306.4 MM shares
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@pinnsvin Interesting to note that inferred is 150.8 MM lbs with a 10% cutoff.
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@pinnsvin I made some notes from this morning's conference call. Most of the call was Leigh Curyer (LC) reading the news release but near the end of the conference the analyst from TD Securities (TD) some questions (I believe it was Craig Hutchinson but I never quite got his name due to the poor call quality). I'm paraphrasing the conversation somewhat but it's fairly close: TD: What are the next steps you’re looking at? You’ve got a 180 MM lbs of indicated category. Certainly that’s enough to go forward with a PFS. What are your plans in terms of development? LC: You’re quite right. We have more than enough defined pounds in the inferred category and the indicated category to commence a PFS. We’ve been conducting the various engineering studies to form the basis of the PFS late 2017, early 2018. But we’re currently considering we might do a PEA based on this updated resource to give the market some direction on the economic power of the asset because a lot of people have moved past the resource growth know that it’s a special asset and they now want some direction on the economic power. So we’re currently assessing doing a PEA in the near future which will be wedged between now and the PFS either late 2017 or early 2018. TD: Something before the first half of this year for the PEA? LC: I’d expect it probably in Q3. TD: What are the main things holding back the prefeasibility study? Underground drilling? LC: Nothing is holding back doing the PFS. We’re doing various engineering studies as we speak. You raise a very good point. I don’t believe the true extent of Arrow can be determined until possible underground drilling. There’s a lot work to be done before we assess if we’ll do that avenue. If you take the history and experience of other deposits in the Basin of this calibre, the deposits expanded materially, like by multiples, once drilled underground. When you’ve got a multi-decade project like this I think the balance of evidence would weigh it towards going underground but that still remains to be seen. We still have a lot of work to do before we can assess that. TD: Do you think you’ll have a decision on that by the second half of this year whether you decide to go underground? LC: Precisely. TD: The size of the indicated resource seems you’d have enough to ahead with a sizeable mine plan to accelerate development. LC: That’s true and we may do that and we may do that. But, at the moment, based on what we know today, when we’re dealing such a long-life asset, spending a bit time understanding what the deposit looks like from underground to get a really solid mine plan will be ultimately in the interests of the project over its life. But I actually don’t think going exploring underground will delay the permitting process materially at all because you’ll have a far better understanding of the project in order to meet those permitting requirements. So, whilst you may delay the start of the permit, I think once you’re into you ultimately get that permit sooner than you would. TD: What’s you’re estimate for permitting an exploration shaft? LC: We’re currently getting that information. Previous experience in the Basin for permitting exploration shafts is anywhere from 6-12 months . But we’ll continue drilling from surface in parallel to going through that process. End of call.
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@pinnsvin @Dufflite and @JamesKwantes Can either of you clarify? Did Leigh say they will providing an updated resource estimate when they release the PEA in Q3?
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@cole119 Thank you everyone for their input and live updates today, @JamesKwantes, @pinnsvin @dufflite and many others. Does today's RE update eliminate suitors from stepping to buy out Arrow? Or does it have suitors salivating at the 180M Lbs of indicated U. In the end, it won't matter what retail traders do. I didn't sell any shares today, nor plan on it. Holding the course, steady as she goes - even thru rougher waters. Bring on the Index buying, drill results, NYSE listing, PEA, PFS, and (hopefully) buyout, all within 12 months.
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@Dufflite @pinnsvin, didn't catch the exact timing of another resource estimate, all I can say for sure was that it was indicated to be in 2017.
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@pinnsvin @Dufflite Thanks! And thanks very much for PDAC notes! *Much* appreciated.
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@pinnsvin @cole119 While todays RE2 may have initially disappointed many investors (including myself), the results are far from disappointing. The trajectory of what I imagined the RE to become remains intact but it's merely the timeline I was thinking that has changed. NexGen will likely get to same resource size but just 6-9 months later than I imagined but with greater certainty. I'm quite glad to have a clearer picture today than I did yesterday. The company is significantly de-risked from where it was yesterday. As of today, there's a large enough indicated resource to build a profitable mine. My two bits, if anything I think the risk of a buyout is higher now. U3O8 price is still close to the bottom and there's enough indicated resource to produce a profitable mine for more than decade.
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@pinnsvin Yeah, what @JKMD43 said ;)
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@cole119 Resource will be updated for the PFS for sure, not sure if they will do an update for the PEA. Probably not, is my guess. Agreed @pinnsvin and @JKMD43. Leigh continues to push on towards development but we all know a buyout is way more likely than NXE taking it to production themselves. Today's indicated number has to have Cameco et all trembling.
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@pinnsvin Perhaps many were drawing parallels to RE1 where a number of institutions made overly conservative resource estimates and undershot the NI-43101 last year. Many of the same institutions explicitly stated they were likely being over-conservative. I mean if you can't trust an investment bank, who can you trust? :S And then of course there are one a dozen assumptions one could make in their calculations that would throw the RE off. For example, going from IDW3 to a combination of Kriging and IDW2 makes a bit of difference. Kriging is above my pay grade as a retail investor. How the grade shell is defined is another example.
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@pinnsvin @hotmail Well-reasoned skepticism is one thing but yellow dot anonymous was engaging in ad hominem. There was nothing well-reasoned about it, just name calling. It added nothing to the debate. Well reasoned dissent and name calling aren't the same thing.
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@pinnsvin @Goldfinger You called that one nicely(!)
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@pinnsvin Looks like the crude oil glut is taking the rest of the energy sector with it today.
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@pinnsvin @HighROI Nexgen's chart looks very similar to oil and the TSX. Almost everything energy related is down today with the exception of natural gas. I wonder why the disconnect between NXE and the rest of the uranium sector. Post RE2 re-positioning? http://cdn.ceo.ca/1cc0pba-2016-03-08-Energy_Futures_Prices_-_Investing_com.png+
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@cole119 @pinnsvin I'd say post RE2 positioning is the main reason. Reality is there is some impatient money which was likely hoping for more/better share price appreciation after RE2 and is now taking this opportunity to allocate $$ elsewhere. So we may see selling into strength for the foreseeable future, at least until some news. Anonymous is very active last 3 days - usually disguising their true intent. Asks very thin, so the volatility will continue...
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@pinnsvin @cole119 You're probably right. Correlation does not imply causation but it just seemes odd that everything else uranium is up and superficially, NXE appears to be following the rest of the market so closely. http://cdn.ceo.ca/1cc0r55-NXE-TSX-Oil.png+
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@pinnsvin Spot price is up again to $26.25. http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/other/uranium.html
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@pinnsvin @speculator You said you had a reason to believe another catalyst will push $NXE hard by May. Are you referring to anything specific?
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@pinnsvin For me at least the most important new was this, "The winter 2017 campaign is focused within a 1 km radius of Arrow where the growth is evidenced by the recent results of broad and sub interval high-grade intercepts in the A2 and A3 shears to the northeast and also to the southwest towards the 180 m zone." Hopefully this means some material news soon..
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@pinnsvin @RedRocket Your $720 MM calculation is more or less correct and I take no issue with it (I get $1016 MM CAD based on a $25.15 spot and $1.337 CAD/ USD). However, the 300 MM lbs U3O8 is calculated solely the A2 and A3 shears. A1, A4, A5, Harpoon, etc are excluded from the price.
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@pinnsvin @teevee Having read the link from your post from Denison yesterday... In order to meet the world's demand Australian and US output would have to rise by 100% (25 MM LBS U3O8) [in addition to rises by other producers]. Based on the current resource estimate that's the same as NexGen's annual production should be by that time. About 10% of the world's production. I'd say that fits the definition of a strategic asset. A fair bargain at $3 i think.
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@pinnsvin *Meaning in ten years NexGen could supply the world with the equivalent of Australia and America's current annual production.
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@pinnsvin I have a difficult time believing that NexGen will be left to develop this asset on their own. It's just too important.
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@teevee @pinnsvin, strategic? absolutely. one possible buyer that isn't often discussed, if at all, is a sovereign fund that might have interest in securing a dedicated source of uranium for it's parent country that has a large number of nuclear reactors.....another interesting way to look at NXE is that there is about 1 pound of uranium/share. Where else can you buy a pound of uranium for $3.00?
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@EvenPrime [[[ 2017 Stock Picking Contests Updated May 5th, 2017 ]]] Summary: There was bloodshed on the markets over the week. A few days in a row my entire portfolio was either red or in the neutral. But these results indicate it may not have been quite as bad as I thought. The markets trimmed approximately 5% over the week (compare the contest results from last week). Interesting though, the Safest-2xBagger was hit the worst. This may be due to the relative number of users (28 users versus 146 and 58) therefore the numbers are easily more volatile. Regardless, the Safest-2xBagger has been the most consistent and reliable contest this year. If the markets cooperate this week, and the wreckage is behind us, I suspect this contest will out-perform the others. - @EvenPrime --------------------------------------------------------- #Stockpickingcontest Highlights: 1) @RocketRed - 141% 2) @raymipo - 133% 3) @Stocklor - 118% 28% of portfolios are above 25% return : (32% last week) 47% of portfolios are above 10% return : (52% last week) 64% of portfolios are positive : (70% last week) https://astronomerb.github.io/CEOtable/stockpickingcontest.html --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- #BonusPickShowDown Highlights: 1) @LucTenHave $AU - 360% 2) @CautiousNow $ADZ - 187% 3) @kayo $PBT-U.CN - 143% 36% of portfolios are above 25% return : (36% last week) 43% of portfolios are above 10% return : (50% last week) 58% of portfolios are positive : (64% last week) https://astronomerb.github.io/CEOtable/bonuspickshowdown.html --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- #Safeststockpickingcontest AKA #Safest2x-Bagger Highlights: 1) @LucTenHave - 154% 2) @LucaBrasi - 74% 3) @Oliver - 47% 36% of portfolios are above 25% return : (46% last week) 50% of portfolios are above 10% return : (64% last week) 68% of portfolios are positive : (79% last week) https://astronomerb.github.io/CEOtable/safeststockpickingcontest.html --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- @1969Enigma @2pac @500Wedge @6furlongs @Aaron @AlGreene @Allan @Alockett @ayeyou @B1984 @Bedrag @bman97 @Breccia @BrettCross @BruceWayne @BS @Bullish @Buyhigh420 @camwow9 @CautiousNow @Chatyak @ck @Clapton @CommodityPro @CriticalInvestor @dalton123 @Daniel @david @dirkdiggler @DJS @DK @Drilltracker @Drj @Dutch_patience @Edp007 @Ekim @Empire @EpsteinResearch @Eustice @Evenprime @Excelsior @Exia @FaxingBerlin @Fiat @Finanzr @Fischlaender @Goldfinger @Goldrush @Goodie @greenmetals @Highheat @iceman @IronMan07 @JACHap @Jayfire @jerrio78 @jhm @jnbarbu @JosephMurphy @JT @K2 @kayo @kjm @Lee @Letsgetready @longzzzzz @Ltr @Lucabrasi @LucTenHave @LukeJackson @m00tpoint @madmann @Markus @Massimom @Maxhuntly @megavoss @Mesro @Mick @Mike86 @Mimibegalo @Minaki @MiningBookGuy @MiningCatalyst @motorolja @muskie @Mutt @Mxpx80 @Newager23 @Newbie @newstracker @Nick @Nobshere @NoSoup4U @ogi @Oliver @Onlyflaws @PamplonaTrader @Pepek @Pinnsvin @poolman @PurpleKush @Quantum @R44 @Rangerbentman @raymipo @RichardBuffet @rjunior @robby @RockedRed @Rod @Sarb @schischi @ScroogeMcduck @Scruff @Sergio @Sigmund @sihv @Silver @Snoek @SotallyTober @Spike @StarFire @Stateside@Stealinator @Stocklor @Stoneminer @strakpao @Sugar-Dog @supra48 @Teevee @Terrysteen @TheGalvanizer @TinyBullStocks @Tomjosd @Tron @Truth Never Told @Ujms @Upticks @Vaughan @Walterc @wiz099 @wolff @xenophon @Ylr @PhotoJ @Goldenboy7123 https://astronomerb.github.io/CEOtable/stockpickingcontest.html #Stockpickingcontest #Bonuspickshowdown #Safeststockpickingcontest #Hotpick https://astronomerb.github.io/CEOtable/stockpickingcontest.html
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@pinnsvin @Goldfinger I get the feeling your favourite charity is going to be $50 richer. https://ceo.ca/index?b8abb5179fc9
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@EvenPrime [[[ 2017 Stock Picking Contests Updated May 5th, 2017 ]]] Summary: NEW WEBSITE launched today :) The Stock Contests are now located at www.EPstatistics.com let me know what you think of the new design :) Last week I mentioned; (last sentence of the first paragraph) https://ceo.ca/stockpickingcontest?919298590aa6 that the Safest Stock Picking Contest was hit the hardest and I expected it to out-preform the other contests this week as we recovered. Have a look at this weekly stat [61% of portfolios are currently sitting above 25% return compared to only 36% of portfolios last week] *Proof that their is value in these contests. --------------------------------------------------------- #Stockpickingcontest Highlights: 1) @RocketRed - 159% 2) @raymipo - 153% 3) @MiningBookGuy - 140% 36% of portfolios are above 25% return : (28% last week) 51% of portfolios are above 10% return : (47% last week) 64% of portfolios are positive : (64% last week) www.EPstatistics.com/stockpickingcontest.php --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- #BonusPickShowDown Highlights: 1) @LucTenHave $AU - 432% 2) @Kayo $PBT-U.CN - 161% 3) @CautiosNow $ADZ - 160% 38% of portfolios are above 25% return : (36% last week) 50% of portfolios are above 10% return : (43% last week) 64% of portfolios are positive : (58% last week) www.EPstatistics.com/bonuspickshowdown.php --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- #Safeststockpickingcontest AKA #Safest2x-Bagger Highlights: 1) @LucTenHave - 179% 2) @Gab - 150% 3) @FundamentalAnalysis - 135% 61% of portfolios are above 25% return : (36% last week) 75% of portfolios are above 10% return : (50% last week) 89% of portfolios are positive : (68% last week) www.EPstatistics.com/safeststockpickingcontest.php --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- @1969Enigma @2pac @500Wedge @6furlongs @Aaron @AlGreene @Allan @Alockett @ayeyou @B1984 @Bedrag @bman97 @Breccia @BrettCross @BruceWayne @BS @Bullish @Buyhigh420 @camwow9 @CautiousNow @Chatyak @ck @Clapton @CommodityPro @CriticalInvestor @dalton123 @Daniel @david @dirkdiggler @DJS @DK @Drilltracker @Drj @Dutch_patience @Edp007 @Ekim @Empire @EpsteinResearch @Eustice @Evenprime @Excelsior @Exia @FaxingBerlin @Fiat @Finanzr @Fischlaender @Goldfinger @Goldrush @Goodie @greenmetals @Highheat @iceman @IronMan07 @JACHap @Jayfire @jerrio78 @jhm @jnbarbu @JosephMurphy @JT @K2 @kayo @kjm @Lee @Letsgetready @longzzzzz @Ltr @Lucabrasi @LucTenHave @LukeJackson @m00tpoint @madmann @Markus @Massimom @Maxhuntly @megavoss @Mesro @Mick @Mike86 @Mimibegalo @Minaki @MiningBookGuy @MiningCatalyst @motorolja @muskie @Mutt @Mxpx80 @Newager23 @Newbie @newstracker @Nick @Nobshere @NoSoup4U @ogi @Oliver @Onlyflaws @PamplonaTrader @Pepek @Pinnsvin @poolman @PurpleKush @Quantum @R44 @Rangerbentman @raymipo @RichardBuffet @rjunior @robby @RockedRed @Rod @Sarb @schischi @ScroogeMcduck @Scruff @Sergio @Sigmund @sihv @Silver @Snoek @SotallyTober @Spike @StarFire @Stateside@Stealinator @Stocklor @Stoneminer @strakpao @Sugar-Dog @supra48 @Teevee @Terrysteen @TheGalvanizer @TinyBullStocks @Tomjosd @Tron @Truth Never Told @Ujms @Upticks @Vaughan @Walterc @wiz099 @wolff @xenophon @Ylr @PhotoJ @Goldenboy7123 www.EPstatistics.com/stockpickingcontest.php #Stockpickingcontest #Bonuspickshowdown #Safeststockpickingcontest #Hotpick www.EPstatistics.com/stockpickingcontest.php
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@EvenPrime [[[ 2017 Stock Picking Contests Updated May 19th, 2017 ]]] --------------------------------------------------------- #Stockpickingcontest Highlights: 1) @raymipo - 156% 2) @RocketRed - 151% 3) @MiningBookGuy - 136% 35% of portfolios are above 25% return : (36% last week) 51% of portfolios are above 10% return : (51% last week) 64% of portfolios are positive : (64% last week) www.EPstatistics.com/stockpickingcontest.php --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- #BonusPickShowDown Highlights: 1) @LucTenHave $AU - 423% 2) @CautiosNow $ADZ - 153% 3 @kayo $PBT-U.CN - 150% 38% of portfolios are above 25% return : (38% last week) 40% of portfolios are above 10% return : (50% last week) 66% of portfolios are positive : (64% last week) www.EPstatistics.com/bonuspickshowdown.php --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- #Safeststockpickingcontest AKA #Safest2x-Bagger Highlights: 1) @LucTenHave - 181% 2) @LucaBrasi - 77% 3) @JAChap - 64% 43% of portfolios are above 25% return : (61% last week) 61% of portfolios are above 10% return : (75% last week) 82% of portfolios are positive : (89% last week) www.EPstatistics.com/safeststockpickingcontest.php --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- @1969Enigma @2pac @500Wedge @6furlongs @Aaron @AlGreene @Allan @Alockett @ayeyou @B1984 @Bedrag @bman97 @Breccia @BrettCross @BruceWayne @BS @Bullish @Buyhigh420 @camwow9 @CautiousNow @Chatyak @ck @Clapton @CommodityPro @CriticalInvestor @dalton123 @Daniel @david @dirkdiggler @DJS @DK @Drilltracker @Drj @Dutch_patience @Edp007 @Ekim @Empire @EpsteinResearch @Eustice @Evenprime @Excelsior @Exia @FaxingBerlin @Fiat @Finanzr @Fischlaender @Goldfinger @Goldrush @Goodie @greenmetals @Highheat @iceman @IronMan07 @JACHap @Jayfire @jerrio78 @jhm @jnbarbu @JosephMurphy @JT @K2 @kayo @kjm @Lee @Letsgetready @longzzzzz @Ltr @Lucabrasi @LucTenHave @LukeJackson @m00tpoint @madmann @Markus @Massimom @Maxhuntly @megavoss @Mesro @Mick @Mike86 @Mimibegalo @Minaki @MiningBookGuy @MiningCatalyst @motorolja @muskie @Mutt @Mxpx80 @Newager23 @Newbie @newstracker @Nick @Nobshere @NoSoup4U @ogi @Oliver @Onlyflaws @PamplonaTrader @Pepek @Pinnsvin @poolman @PurpleKush @Quantum @R44 @Rangerbentman @raymipo @RichardBuffet @rjunior @robby @RockedRed @Rod @Sarb @schischi @ScroogeMcduck @Scruff @Sergio @Sigmund @sihv @Silver @Snoek @SotallyTober @Spike @StarFire @Stateside@Stealinator @Stocklor @Stoneminer @strakpao @Sugar-Dog @supra48 @Teevee @Terrysteen @TheGalvanizer @TinyBullStocks @Tomjosd @Tron @Truth Never Told @Ujms @Upticks @Vaughan @Walterc @wiz099 @wolff @xenophon @Ylr @PhotoJ @Goldenboy7123 www.EPstatistics.com/stockpickingcontest.php #Stockpickingcontest #Bonuspickshowdown #Safeststockpickingcontest #Hotpick www.EPstatistics.com/stockpickingcontest.php
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@pinnsvin "How many nuclear plants are there in Switzerland? Five. The first is slated to close in 2019. Voters have not set a deadline for the rest to be closed. They will bea [sic] allowed to run as long as they meet safety standards. The law will ban the construction of new plants." http://www.euronews.com/2017/05/21/swiss-referendum-on-renewable-energy
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@poolman @pinnsvin Well if the alternative energy strategy doesn't work out so well at least in doesn't get cold there in the winter time.
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@hunter sorry I did not see the date on that BBC news link, @KP138. @Rulingmining link shows no real commitment one way or the other, gradual phase out, not any rush out of nuclear, but no further nuclear builds for now, either. See $NXE channnel note from @pinnsvin https://ceo.ca/nxe?13c1e7850e5e ..."Voters have not set a deadline for the rest to be closed. They will bea [sic] allowed to run as long as they meet safety standards. The law will ban the construction of new plants."
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