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@EpsteinResearch Sorry, @Tim_Oliver, my comment was purely in jest, aimed entirely at anonymous posters who, I've complained about several times, over several months. No reflection on you whatsoever
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@EpsteinResearch @T, if someone with an alias says a lot of stupid things, I will know not to trust posts coming from that person. Or, if the person hiding behind an alias says smart, insightful and credible things, I will know that the person adds value to the board.
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@teevee $ion There is no known economic method to recover and produce lithium from clays. Robert Friedland had a lithium company a few years ago and spent $10's of millions trying to solve that problem with no success.
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@T thanks for replying @EpsteinResearch, but that is exactly my point. the whole basis of the having a handle argument is for track record purposes to verify if the person is credible but the comment or question that person posts should tell you that anyways. if the comment is stupid or baseless then simply ignore but if the post is a valid statement/question then what does it matter if the poster is anonymous?
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@kokom If anyone cares to weigh in I'd appreciate knowledgable replies. According to company rep, Caliguay is the only known brine source in the Mexican calims. Brine samples submitted this fall apprear missing from assays. Hectorite, not to be ID'd in significant amounts. @DanO says brine samples required to put Magnesium ratio in context. Seeing posts re:economics of clay on the ION board...so guys, where are we with those latest soil results. What DO/DON'T we know? Thanks to all who weigh in, anonymous or with a nic. All the same to me:)
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@Vaughan Disagree @T and agree with @EpsteinResearch. Handles are necessary. Many insightful members on the site have made it quite clear that they will not, under any circumstance, dialogue with an anon. Waste of time. So this leaves new members with the choice to either slap a handle on it, are understand they will not have much interaction with knowledgable folk. Plus the content of a post will not always prove someones contribution is valuable. Many sound smart, and are just pumpers. Others dont say mich at all, maybe a post every few days, but when they do drop a post, you want to be sure you are following that person.
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@maguado18 Been invested on ion for a while and Im a heavy bag holder. @allan Dont mind any basher, focus on what you have to do and if you believed that the property in Mexico is golden then we are in business. Moving forward hopefully in the new year you got good news for us bag holders!!! GLTA
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@T @Vaughan, i understand the value of having a handle becasue the fact many members are insistent on it or they wont respond but that doesnt help me with the reasoning on why that is. and i have stated that in some instances i do feel like it is necessary. but i dont feel like it should always be required to have a meaningful dialogue. if i see anon posting a pump all i do is simply ignore the post. i have seen honest questions and comments from anon that get shut down simply because they are anon. this will be my last post on this, dont want to clog the room and dont think i will get the answer im looking for anyways. thanks for your opinion @vaughan
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@DanO @kokom. I am answering this because of you and other honest investors. I am not going to analyze what is wrong with the assays, methods, theory, expectations, nr etc or why. I am going to use some of the things that I wrote in my dd. So: Brines exist in those Mexican salars imo and they have a certain #lithium content (low grade) but in those cases where there had been an evaporation pond operation (for salt) in there for decades the lithium in brines had been concentrated most likely to Clayton Valley grades (nowadays grades). The problem is that according to my dd the volume of brine hosted by those salars/basins is small and won't allow the co to build a processing plant. When I said drop them claims I explained that I considered the millions of dollars that they had to pay to keep the claims plus exploration expenses etc. Meanwhile they've managed to reduce the fees so they can keep working those salars. I said in my dd that they can make money by building solar evaporation ponds and concentrating the brine to at least 6,000 ppm and then by trucking it to a processing plant (Albemarle) back in the US. But $ion has to move fast and not spend too much money - i.e. drill it (validate that brine exists in there) and apply for solar evap ponds permits ASAP. Even if they start with a few small evaporation ponds they can afterwards add to those to accommodate production from other salars. Then they should start pumping out and processing the brine w/o a FS as they cannot afford one. It would be similar to any other small jr that buys into a small past producing silver mine in Mexico and then starts scavenging the ore (small production) and then looking for extensions. So it is doable and they can make some money and then can move on and buy another project.
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@Tim_Oliver @EpsteinResearch - I dig Peter. All cool.
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anonymous Move on and buy another project, @DanO? But...but...the potassium, the silver..!
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@kokom @DanO, I do appreciate your opinion on the status and managment of salar project. So many questions. The one I'd most like to know...Did we learn anything aside from species indication, associated elements [%'s], and both labs came up with roughly similar values? Anyone?
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@DanO @anon Jokes aside potassium can be recovered and can be either by-product or even the main product. But they would still have to drill it first and unequivocally confirm the existence of lithium & potassium brine. It should not be that difficult considering that they know where the salt operation had their wells (20m deep) which were flooded with brine.
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@DanO @kokom It's frickin' difficult to explain all those assays and what and what not and why. It will take too much time. Today I pointed to an $icm nr where they had same high lithium assays when analyzing the sediments but found only very little (and low grade) brine. These assays that $icm and $ion are doing are trying to provide an indirect proof for the existence of high grade lithium brines but it is not like that because of many reasons. Stick with what I have just said. Your investment money are not lost if they move fast and drill it. Then submit the brine to the lab for concentration tests and permit a pilot test which can be scaled up. Permitting is what they should be doing not these kind of assays. I want to see brine assays not sediment assays. P.S. I am not commenting on those icm ideas of bulk mining and leaching the sediments. Yet :)
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@DanO @anon Forgot this. Silver? Forget about it :)
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anonymous Where's that pumper Rick
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@CriticalInvestor @Allan I'm critical where I think I should be. The jury is out on the projects for potential as it's early stage, although if this Mg/Li ratio checks out throughout whatever resource you will come up with, it would definitely be a problem, but this option thing is already out in the open. @DanO working on projects like that sounds like something for the CSE, not Venture, it's small scale amateur style, basically doomed to fail, no serious funds can ever be raised like that, zero credibility for serious investors. I've never seen small scale PM operations without any resource or study leading to serious projects by internal cash flow so far, have you?
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@Midnight What about the other three properties ion owns? Are they worthless?
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@Allan midnight, none of our projects are worthless. It is easy to throw mud on projects, but much different to roll up your sleeves to figure it out.
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@Allan @CriticalInvestor, from my experience chatting with you in person and on here that your default it to be critical. I explained to you why people who look at things critically all the time will almost always miss the positives. Just like you are in this case.
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@jestay @Allan, you keep talking about the positives, which is great, but unfortunately the shareholders are not seeing them. The stock price is in single digits. Please tell us what the positives are as many of us would like to know. When you use the term "soup" to refer to what we have in Mexico is not effing positive in my opinion.
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@Allan @jestay, it is a chemical soup and we need to figure what the goodies are in it and how we will go about getting them out. Look at the chemistry, strong numbers so far and we have a lot more work to do to test the salars. So if I lied and say they are crummy, do you think that would help the valuation?
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@kokom Incredible these claims were picked up and "sold to investors" prior to brines being assayed. Company re assayed the soils, why not the brines?
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@DanO @CriticalInvestor Those Mexican salars are not that big. If they start drilling and put a few holes in there and other than assays do some minimal pumping tests etc they could estimate a resource (not reserve) in no time i.e. before getting the permits for solar evap ponds. They won't need too much money to step up and build those ponds or buy a few pumps and such. Many hardrock miners are going into production without a FS because it is too expensive (and time consuming). Of course it is risky to do that but sometimes might be the only option. For larger projects yes it is absolutely necessary. Btw $knt does not have a FS and goes into production. $lio does not have one and intends to start production as well. These two (and many others) are large and complex deposits that should have a FS but they chose not to. And they are raising money. Serious money.
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@Moe is ion heading back to 7 cents ??
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anonymous negative 10 bagger
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@Allan @DanO, I think we are of a like mind, we just describe it differently. You call it small scale mining, I look at it more like progressively larger bulk samples that leads to the next step. It is much like the way South Africans test the outcropping diamondiferous kimberlites, they start with small bulk samples that get larger until they are mining if the pipes keep answering the questions.
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anonymous @allan, How are you going to reward shareholders here? The SP keeps dropping
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anonymous $LIX, $AAL holding fairly well so the market is not an excuse
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@RocketRed When Tim Quit the stock tanked /// People blaming Allan is totally #WRONG 2016-10-04 13:51 $ION Alset Energy Corp 0.12 News Release Alset clarifies Oct. 3 NR re assessment requirements 2016-10-04 13:35 $ION Alset Energy Corp 0.12 Resume Trading Alset Energy to resume at 11 a.m. PT 2016-10-03 13:38 $ION Alset Energy Corp 0.26 Halt Trading Alset Energy halted at 10:36 a.m. PT 2016-10-03 12:14 $ION Alset Energy Corp 0.26 News Release Alset Energy's Oliver resigns over work expenditures
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anonymous They have 300 thousand I think the company market cap should also reflect that.
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@investorX $Ion lost credibility long time ago and when that happens it's better to close down the company and open another one with a different name or else it's going to keep suffering forever even if good news comes along this will keep hurting
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@CriticalInvestor @Allan Yes I'm critical by default, as you need to be in this space, or you don't make any money. And no I don't always miss the positives, as for example I have a pretty good total return for the year, and a strong set of sponsors I believe, with lots of positives. Pretty bold statement to make Allan. Try nuanced next time, or at least fact based.
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@CriticalInvestor @DanO That's exactly what I mean with small scale operations. Don't ask me why K92 is able to raise the kind of money they do, I have never invested a dime and never will, for reasons you are familiar with.
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@Muskellz set my but limit at .001
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@Muskellz buy
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anonymous Allan spent all your money on McDonald's
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anonymous Is this @allan from $ion https://youtu.be/STqi4HTUUmg+
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@kokom To posters taking cheap shots behind anonymous handles. Please find forums better suited to sniper sensibilities.
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@kokom OK, gotta admit the youtu's kinda apropppo, but it's still a cheap shot. That said.... CEO WAS making TURD jokes as SP fell to a low of .085. Pretty damn callous to bagholders watching leader's actions.
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@kokom OK, gotta admit the youtu's kinda apropppo. CEO was online making TURD jokes as SP fell to a low of .085 today.
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anonymous Hey, bagholders, why the bullying personal attacks? Go empty your bag, it's tax loss time. Surely you made profits somewhere this year? I'm sure Allan would take your call if you would like to discuss your 'concerns' in person. His contact info is public at www.Allanbarryreports.com
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anonymous Talk about the company, the projects, the management, etc, but have a little respect.
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anonymous Allan has proven he can take some heat, and he might even enjoy a bit of online sparring, but trolling the board for your personal enjoyment? Take a hike!
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@TheGalvanizer Really ugly personal attacks are going way too far regardless of frustration out there.
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anonymous Agree @TheGalvanizer. 99% of us are 'anon' online, even with a handle like kokom. Just remember, we are not hidden from the admins of this site. I flagged the video so they can delete it. No place for that crap here or any other board.
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@Allan I appreciate the comments blue dot and galvan about the ugly personal attacks, but I've been dealing with them all my life and that is why I deal with them the way I do.
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@BruceWayne Yeah those are way too far. No place for comments like that on what it supposed to be a site for professional discussion. I flagged them and I'm sure if others flag it the admins will delete them/ban accounts
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@Allan I'd prefer if they don't take it down blue dot. I like people to be able to see the nonsense from goofs like that.
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