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@staffpro same story with the FMT host talks about Kieth like he is the next Jesus $FF
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@FundamentalAnalysis @staffpro you've become quite harsh lol.
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@Let_them_eat_silver If he' throwing the money - changers out of the temple, then I'm all for him ;)
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@staffpro i'm not harsh @fundamentalAnalysis i bought $FF at $0.40 when it was trading for something close to 12-14$/ounce in the ground, i then sold at 1$ when market cap crossed over 500m, it is now over $30/ounce there are better speculative plays sub $15 ounce in the ground STILL
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@staffpro that said he is paying FMT and on every newsletter and yada yada yada and KAtusa was pumping him too at one point i don't discredit kieth's or Amirs promotion efforts but don't be surprised if the share price doesn't go your way because of all the hot air in this and $GOLD $FF
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@FundamentalAnalysis @staffpro I got in at and out at similar prices to you....but I wouldn't bet against Keith and their promotional abilities, despite how expensive company looks.
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@staffpro @fundamentalAnalysis i digress but ya i still follow it but not invested in it as i learned about better opportunities, i certainly don't discount promotion though and publicity, can be very powerful things
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@BrianBitcoinBull @staffpro @fundamentalAnalysis Fundamentals don't matter as much with regards to valuations with $FF or any of Keith or Amirs companies, it is all about sentiment with regards to the underlying commodities. My goal is maximize my profit and all the promotion and premium paid by the non ceo.ca or stockhouse crowd definitely helps. Rather than fighting the pumpers or being jealous that I might have a better resource company/asset fundamentally I learned to embrace it. Its like Amazon which basically makes almost no profit, but they sell a ton of stuff and everyone loves them. So the stock goes higher and higher. Same thing with companies like TESLA everyone loves the story! Nothing wrong with profiting off of other stupidity.
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@FundamentalAnalysis @BrianBitcoinBull I think the point is, if gold prices continue upwards, you can put money in other companies like $SSP which are also optionality type plays yet more advanced and which have more upwards momentum left due to their relatively lower valuation. You just never know Kerrisdale may attack $FF since they are already not neuymeyer fans. Whilst Kerrisdale can't attack $SSP its already quite cheap. The idea is there are better companies around from a valuation perspective. I would disagree that fundamentals don't matter, ultimately it always does. If you look at Amazon, the market is pricing in that Amazon will continue to grow rapidly and generate profits. Throughout these years it has been delivering sales growth and more recently showing profits so fundamentals are actually beginning to play out, but now its pricing in even more future growth etc etc.... same with facebook which was at a p/e of 100 when it listed, but based on its current earnings, and original listing price that comes down substantially. So those who took a bet on it around many years ago were correct in seeing facebook being able to monetise..... First mining main thing going for it is gold prices going higher, but there are other companies which will rise should that happen to, which are relatively cheaper.
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@BrianBitcoinBull @FundamentalAnalysis with regards to $FF and a short attack it won't happen on a US OTC stock in my personal opinion. I disagree with you on Amazon. I will admit Facebook found some profitability when things like Twitter could not even given their massive user base. I never mentioned either of those. You did not address Tesla if you wish to go that route. Best of luck if PMs go higher $FF is going way way higher. The Peter Schiff crowd will bid it up to crazy highs. Sorry for you if you married to a paradigm! I plan on making money!!!
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@FundamentalAnalysis @BrianBitcoinBull I know fully well how markets work, and I'm aware of momentum/sentiment. Tesla is priced highly due to EV sentiment and also because the market expects it become profitable eventually, Reality whether its positive or negative will eventually hit tesla. The market participants have bought into a story and believe in it, and they will continue believing in it until the facts are revealed which could still be many years away. Amazon has been priced highly for over a decade because the market has kept thinking it will grow and profits will grow, a decade later after continuously growing sales it is also now profitable, and the market now believes Amazon will be a lot more profitable then it is currently hence the valuation being so high. Going back a decade, people believed in the Amazon story that it would be a huge thing, and they have now been proven to be correct, but now they are looking many year ahead thinking it will play an even more important role in the world...and thus boosting sales and profits further ....time will tell.. My point is fundamentals always play out eventually, that never goes away and that's what happened with twitter, and believe me fundamentals will play out with every single other share. Sentiment lasts only so long, fundamentals have to eventually drive that sentiment along otherwise sentiment reverts to fundamentals.. If gold prices go higher, have I ever said I expect first mining $FF to collapse unless its targeted by a short seller? If gold sentiment is good, all the gold companies for the most part will start rising, especially those promoted well. BUT I'd prefer having a fundamentally strong company, then just any gold company so at least the sentiment moves are sustainable without a RISK of collapsing. If you are smart enough to judge where companies will be many many years ahead and you are able to forsee a positive outcome (fundamentally), then play the sentiment game, personally I'm not and have made enough money without going down that route, so i'll stick to what I perceive as my safer methods.
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@FundamentalAnalysis @BrianBitcoinBull I know fully well how markets work, and I'm aware of momentum/sentiment. Tesla is priced highly due to EV sentiment and also because the market expects it become profitable eventually, Reality whether its positive or negative will eventually hit tesla. The market participants have bought into a story and believe in it, and they will continue believing in it until the facts are revealed which could still be many years away. Amazon has been priced highly for over a decade because the market has kept thinking it will grow and profits will grow, a decade later after continuously growing sales it is also now profitable, and the market now believes Amazon will be a lot more profitable then it is currently hence the valuation being so high. Going back a decade, people believed in the Amazon story that it would be a huge thing, and they have now been proven to be correct, but now they are looking many year ahead thinking it will play an even more important role in the world...and thus boosting sales and profits further ....time will tell.. My point is fundamentals always play out eventually, that never goes away and that's what happened with twitter, and believe me fundamentals will play out with every single other share. Sentiment lasts only so long, fundamentals have to eventually drive that sentiment along otherwise sentiment reverts to fundamentals.. If gold prices go higher, have I ever said I expect first mining $FF to collapse unless its targeted by a short seller? If gold sentiment is good, all the gold companies for the most part will start rising, especially those promoted well. BUT I'd prefer having a fundamentally strong company, then just any gold company so at least the sentiment moves are sustainable without a RISK of collapsing. If you are smart enough to judge where companies will be many many years ahead and you are able to forsee a positive outcome (fundamentally), then play the sentiment game, personally I'm not and have made enough money without going down that route, so i'll stick to what I perceive as my safer methods.
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@FundamentalAnalysis @BrianBitcoinBull I know fully well how markets work, and I'm aware of momentum/sentiment. Tesla is priced highly due to EV sentiment and also because the market expects it become profitable eventually, Reality whether its positive or negative will eventually hit tesla. The market participants have bought into a story and believe in it, and they will continue believing in it until the facts are revealed which could still be many years away. Amazon has been priced highly for over a decade because the market has kept thinking it will grow and profits will grow, a decade later after continuously growing sales it is also now profitable, and the market now believes Amazon will be a lot more profitable then it is currently hence the valuation being so high. Going back a decade, people believed in the Amazon story that it would be a huge thing, and they have now been proven to be correct, but now they are looking many year ahead thinking it will play an even more important role in the world...and thus boosting sales and profits further ....time will tell.. My point is fundamentals always play out eventually, that never goes away and that's what happened with twitter, and believe me fundamentals will play out with every single other share. Sentiment lasts only so long, fundamentals have to eventually drive that sentiment along otherwise sentiment reverts to fundamentals.. If gold prices go higher, have I ever said I expect first mining $FF to collapse unless its targeted by a short seller? If gold sentiment is good, all the gold companies for the most part will start rising, especially those promoted well. BUT I'd prefer having a fundamentally strong company, then just any gold company so at least the sentiment moves are sustainable without a RISK of collapsing. If you are smart enough to judge where companies will be many many years ahead and you are able to forsee a positive outcome (fundamentally), then play the sentiment game, personally I'm not and have made enough money without going down that route, so i'll stick to what I perceive as my safer methods.
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@DrunkenSpeculator "Fundamentals don't matter..." is probably a phrase to be wary of
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@BrianBitcoinBull In the short term fundamentals don't mean anything. I remember the GO G0 90s being a kid in the SF Bay Area. Every tech pc of shit went to crazy highs. Right now every pc of Shit gold or uranium company is getting financing. It is true you must short through the junk to find the treasure.But with regards to trading its 100% right. Especially if you look at general equities.
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@FundamentalAnalysis Agree @BrianBitcoinBull, fundamentals in the short term especially with these juniors appear to be irrelevant.
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@TheHolyBuyBull Ignoring fundamentals is like bluffing with a bad poker hand. It can work but..
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anonymous Can someone explain to me how a project that was acquired for 3-4$/oz or 5 or 10 or whatever suddenly becomes worth 30$/oz just because it is under the FF umbrella? Is Kieths name worth 25$/oz? I think that's the point alot of people here are making is that there is some inherent value in the garbage projects and then as of right now 80% of the market cap is Kieths name
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anonymous I'm still trying to figure this one out however , he is a investment banker, I am a retail guy he created a "liquid" gold speculation investment vehicle is what I would call it momentum can take garbage a long way so I'm not long because I see better value but I wouldn't short this either
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@FundamentalAnalysis @anonymous Partly it would be diversification of properties. Which increases the overall value per ounce. Also the properties were bought in a very bad market, the market is now a bit more optimistic which would increase the $/oz. Liquidity, help raise the valuation of the companies. All that combined with a known name who has historically created shareholder value over a long period. Finally we have promotion.....
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anonymous Large name accumulating discretely but hard with a 30 million market cap- 1 million volume today :) this might be the next $NHK $SPA $GOlD $FF $XGD
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@Let_them_eat_silver $FF Patrick Donnelly: The Return of the Golden Age posted on Feb 22, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2_XXfKYJs+
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anonymous Blue horseshoe loves $SPA 1.33milliom volume microcap is the way to play this gold breakout! $XGD $GOLD $FF
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@TheDailyGold $SSP is a true optionality play. One big deposit is a much better way to go than accumulating a bunch of junk like $FF or $BRI.
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@zartceps How to Make Real Gains in Junior Gold Stocks - Keith Neumeyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEAKDh5bMyc+ $FF #Neumeyer #FMT
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@Vaughan Did keith neumeyer just advise people to stay away from highly promoted stocks, really?. Keith, you have a newfound business partnership with future money trends, your caution to investors of overly promoted stocks is a joke. $ff FMT
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@lukejackson Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house $FF $NDM
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@staffpro $FF $SPA $ME buy optionality plays that are still <8$/oz with alot of existing drilling not accumulation of garbage like $FF, $SPA and $ME assets centered in one location $FF is such a waste of market capitilization
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@staffpro $FF ouch this one feels like bleeding hemorrhoids XD can't say people on here haven't been warned
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@tltooo It's up almost 20%! I wouldn't compare it with hemorrhoids, especially not with the bleeding type. LOL ($1.05 $0.17 19.32%)
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@FundamentalAnalysis I'd be very interested for a poll to be done with ceo.ca users and to look at results as to how people trade/speculate, whethers its fundamentals, technicals, both, catching the bandwagon etc etc. It would be very useful information to help understand what's driving the market. Being too rational for example means you miss big moves... #newbies #mbgtrends #trading #speculating #sentiment
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@TheNextBigRush $FF what a performance today....clap clap clap.
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@fscwire 7 Canadian Gold Juniors Quietly Becoming Acquisition Targets @fscwire/7-canadian-gold-juniors-quietly-becoming-acquisition $FF List of 7: $nhk $pgm $fpc $er $gwa $tml and $ava Paid advertising, thats fine. It is interesting though that disclaimers can now be hidden behind a button, only to be seen by those keen enough to click.
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@Goldfinger Let's start a CEO.ca version of 'Follow Friday' #FF......
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@Goldfinger My CEO.CA #FF for the week are @dirkdiggler @Allan @MiningBookGuy....
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@FundamentalAnalysis @MiningBookGuy looking to compete against $FF and $GOLD with his $SWA promo :) For every youtube video you do, maybe consider an $SWA banner in the background or perhaps do a few click baits on youtube put some pretty woman on....then chat about $SWA. Lots of tricks to get the $SWA promo party started.....:p #newbies #mbgtrends .... Disclosure: I'm a $SWA holder since 14-17c
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@MiningBookGuy LOL @FundamentalAnalysis! that's not exactly my 'style'...but who knows, maybe $SWA needs the $FF / $GOLD treatment one of these days :P
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SEDI_bot First Mining Finance Corp. (formerly Albion Petroleum Ltd.) $FF just filed 1 reports. View full report: SEDI:FF
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@Bimbeebop Well I closed out my position $ffmgf 50K shares in december shit! Lol. Screw it I bought a shit load of $GXU at .09 but still, what a huge move in the jr miners today!
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@tltooo Podcast: First Mining Finance CEO Keith Neumeyer on opportunistic acquisition - http://business.financialpost.com/midas-letter/podcast-first-mining-finance-ceo-keith-neumeyer-on-opportunistic-acquisition
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@marketwired First Mining Reports Updated Gold Resource Estimate for the Cameron Gold Project in Northwestern Ontario @marketwired/first-mining-reports-updated-gold-resource-estimate $FF $FFMGF $FMG
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@tltooo Before you, newbies jump all over @KeithNeumeyer for proposing to do some drilling -- especially after reading the article from last May ("we're not actually planning to drill a single hole") -- keep in mind that he's never done anything that didn't increase the accretive value of each of your shares. Some of these projects (especially Cameron) have the potential for a yuuuge "bigly" revaluation based on the results of just a small drilling program...so why let all the upside go to a Goldcorp or an Agnico Eagle? If KN decides to do some drilling on the most prospective properties while we're sitting around waiting for the PoG to take off, you should be all for it. And if you still don't like it, may I recommend a good prospect generator (SMD)?
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@tltooo Load up and yes that's what im doing. Shorts would love 72. I take my chances. I haven't been in this play forever but could resist taling 89!
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@tltooo Important Gold Stock Update: First Mining Finance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWWWBPVVR_A+
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@tltooo FF update: • Upgrade Canadian exchange listing from TSX-Venture to TSX (Planned for H1 2017) • 47,000 metres of drilling planned for key projects throughout 2017 including: – 27,000 metres of infill and resource expansion at Goldlund (already commenced January 2017). – 9,000 metres of infill drilling at Cameron to upgrade resources and to prepare for a PEA. – 5,000 metres of infill and exploration drilling at Hope Brook to upgrade resources to prepare for a PEA. – Additional drilling may be conducted as warranted. • Update existing PEA at Springpole and prepare for a Pre-Feasibility Study • Commence environmental baseline work at Springpole • Seek further potential acquisitions to expand mineral bank portfolio
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@tltooo FF Mineral Bank Portfolio https://s28.postimg.org/fa7mjd4nh/mineralbankportfolio.jpg+
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@LucTenHave Summary Brionor Resources $BNR: - projects total 103,000 hectares in the province of Santa Cruz, Argentina - team/board: Lew Lawrick ( $SIR $ANX ), Michael Byron ( $NHK ), Paul Robinson ( $REN ), Denis Hall ( Minera Andes before it became $MUX ), Robert Ayotte ( $MQR ) - 14,447,000 shares of Northern Superior $SUP (worth ~C$ 0.8 million) - 1,830,000 shares of First Mining Finance $FF (worth ~C$ 1.6 million) - C$ 1 million cash post PP - market cap C$ 3.4 million post PP
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