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@Mr.Smokey I also think they will manage to get around the chromatic aberration problem. This can be handled fairly well with post-processing (just one click in lightroom) and also optically (ED or fluorite glass should work for them just as it does for camera lenses and refractor scopes?). I guess it comes down to cost and how excessive the CAs really are. I also wonder if the CAs cancel out when using two flat lenses of this kind behind each other (same way as in catadioptric lenses/scopes). Another thing I wondered about is the resolution limit they published in a news release earlier for the prototype (2.7 arcsec). This number is clearly inferior to the competition of 5 inch telescopes. I wonder if this has to do with the low-resolution camera (3MP), or if the reason lies in the optical system.
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@chatyak It was only a prototype guys :) and the abberation issue came up before. The Calgary photo astronomy group had taken the camera out in the day as well and did a write up on it. I'm sure they are aware though and there's still lots to do.
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@EvenPrime http://cdn.ceo.ca/1cfc7qn-duedili.png+ This is a convo between @RocketRed and myself last month. Some decent information on there for #newbies to see how we approached this concept. @Mr.Smokey - 70M is just a guess. From a quick glance I considered them worth around 20M but I know if they wanted to sell the idea, imo its worth around 70M with a working product that can take low resolution, single wavelength images in a very small package. That is a technical feat in itself, and its not like there going to pack up and sell it for 70M right now lol - just a number I felt comfortable with. Show me a daytime image and my whole perspective will change. But I will say - its coming, and I think someone will find a way. $NXO I'll have to sit down one of these days to really look at the company, and get a better valuation on it.
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@EvenPrime @chatyak they have any images posted? Can u post that link - I didnt see it - definately interested.
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@EvenPrime Thanks @chatyak Here are my issues with those links. 1) They didnt show images of daylight although they said they tested for it. 2) The BlackFly S is CMOS based and I have an issue with that. Put a DSLR camera to it next time. (This is a long topic and may seem strange so pm if u really need to know why - its just my opinion though. and 3) The second link about chromatic aberation. I didnt read the article they are attacking about the guy saying it was a negative issue. Strange to me they say what they say. Physics 101 lol. Of course all lens suffer from this to some degree. The point (I assume) they are making is that the writer is worried that to what degree is important (which it is).
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@chatyak I can't debate the physics as that isn't my area of expertise :) I just know that a lot of big names are involved and the reviews and feedback seem to be well received for even just the initial prototype - even from the "photography" folks. I think the abberation issue was stated that it was a negative - without stating that it's in all lenses and such.
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@chatyak Was just sharing the info. I think a major derisking has taken place though - showing that this paradigm shift of taking photos actually works - to what degree with tweaking forward now is all that remains.
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@chatyak I was in at .34 cents though - free riding now so that helps the stress levels...
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@EvenPrime I think the "IDEA" is fucking awesome!!!! Don't ever get me wrong on this. Here is my simple issue. Why are they comparing it to a telescope if it is to be used in cell phones to take clear high quality color photos. Shouldnt they be comparing it to the current cameras inside a phone? - I said before, I think it will impact the telescope industry and there is most likely a viable market. And "if" they can really deal with the aberration to a level that it is insignificant, then I am ALL FOR IT< and this bad boy will excel beyond our wildest dreams. I tried to get tickets to the conference because I wanted to see what it could do in daylight - and I still do not know. That is my issue.
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@chatyak I think they were going for the telescope market first
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@chatyak And it was the easiest comparison to begin with.
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@chatyak Based on their initial designs
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@chatyak From now it's just a scaling procedure as the steps to make their unit are teh same - just tinier for the cameras.
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@EvenPrime fair enough. I have spoken with a few professors about it, and yeah, we all think its a turning point. And this is fantastic because there hasnt been a paradigm shift since adaptive optics in the 80s.
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@EvenPrime Hehe I dont want anyone to think Im pessimistic on this channel - Im very optimistic. Just cautious. :) Also I had a mistake in an earlier post - I wrote reflecting telescope, I meant refracting :)
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@EvenPrime ' Even, I've seen this too. I am quite skeptical as my understanding is the metamaterial lenses have only just become able to focus different wavelengths to the same point. I also don't understand how they get an effective focal length that is so long in such a small case, short of using a tiny sensor. The one thing I will say, Rob Cardinal is working for NexOptic and he was in the Dept. of Physics at U of Calgary... So I won't be investing but I will watch the public release with interest.' -
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@EvenPrime Even - the patent is available. It makes sense. Basically they're using a reflector with a variable prism to reduce the image size in a short distance. The problem is the achromaticity, ie the different wavelengths will refract differently, so they have to process the image to bring the distinct wavelengths together. An interesting idea!.Take a look here: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20170038571.pdf
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@EvenPrime Thank you very much Professor . I had a feeling it was something along these lines. Im excited to see how the market reacts but from what I have gathered we are looking at a 20 million dollar company that currently has a market cap of ~100 +million hehe. I'll watch from the bench
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@EvenPrime Not a bad idea. If you look at the stock volatility right now it is through the roof. That means there is a lot of disinformation out there. I did debate making a big stand at $1.50, but no. Not worth it.
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@EvenPrime Above - a convo I had with someone I have a lot of respect for.
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@DJS @EvenPrime, was that conversation on the main index? Missing the professor's posts here on $NXO...
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@EvenPrime No sorry it was taken from email. I copied/paste to the $NXO wall. The ones that start with Even, those are his/her comments and the one that starts with 'Not a bad idea' is as well. I just copied parts I thought would help provide some clarity
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@DJS OK. Thanks.
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@DJS Yeah, I can follow the conversation now with the explanation in your last post. Many thanks for sharing.
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@greg @DJS,@evenPrime,@DJS,@chatyak: thanks for the helpful and insightful information and discussion, I enjoyed evenprime's take on things $NXO from a physics person, and nice effort especially for a non-investor up till now. I think your thoughts highlight some of the keys to the incredible volatilty the past few weeks; many investors remain skeptical for good reasons and/or lack enough knowledge to know whether the various verticals will function well enough to be truly disruptive, ie. cell phones/tablets, military applications, medical/surgical scoping, virtual reality, etc..The company only knows so much as well, which is why the newly announced engineering/trade study on cameras/cell phones application is the great unanswered question. NXO needs some signed contracts to confirm that industry wants what NXO has, I'm thinking Zeiss and Bushnell and Tasco, etc. for starters. I hope these come within 6 months, or doubt will creep into my mind at least. I have no crystal ball, but the potential here was too good to pass up. Been in since last year.
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@chatyak My belief is that he is selling to excercise some early warrants that will expire in a few months. If I am right, his sales are normal, natural, and will contribute to funding the Company. Lastly, his sales are quite small considering he is one of the Company’s largest shareholders and likely owns millions of shares. If he decided to sell millions of shares, then perhaps it may cause me to wonder. At the same time, we all invest to make money, which means we all have to eventually sell if we want to reap the rewards. Lastly, if Armstrong knew something that we did not – such as potential issues with the prototype – and he sold, he would be selling based on insider information. That would be illegal. Given Armstrong runs a very prominent law practice, I highly doubt he would let that happen."
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@chatyak Quote from another person
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@greg joins the long line of shorts...hit piece
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@Minaki $nxo getting punished by equity guru article. Signs of the past. ip
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@StockForensics Same short pattern as ip also...
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@Bonzaidog Seems Coordinated
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@chatyak What an ignorant article
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@texasfan He's not one for fine details.
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@chatyak "I'm not one for aberrations". lol
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@StockForensics Might run down to $1.2-1.4 before rebound
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@Bonzaidog Think the shorters will get "screwed" this time?
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@Bonzaidog Like the time they drove it to 3.20$?
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@Jelliott Thanks for the article, I was looking for an in to nxo!
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@BES Quite the turnaround, redrawing the hole article and admitted their mistake of publishing fake information Equity Guru. https://equity.guru/2017/04/21/nexoptic-technology-nxo-v-isnt-entirely-clear-to-me/
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@privateapricot Communications from this company are a rarity lately. So I suppose we should be grateful for this interview. https://www.facebook.com/jvprny/posts/1645395548822854
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@AldenTyrell @chatyak You still like this one ?
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@lukejackson $NXO more please... shorts seem to have ahold of this.
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@chatyak Yep..riding free profits with it
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@camwow9 Anyone know when the next news release is?
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mike 29th
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